{"id":340,"date":"2015-06-13T14:58:05","date_gmt":"2015-06-13T12:58:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/greywolfe.co.za\/blog\/?p=340"},"modified":"2015-06-13T15:09:11","modified_gmt":"2015-06-13T13:09:11","slug":"quest-for-glory-2-review-a-tale-of-two-quest-for-glories","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/greywolfe.co.za\/blog\/quest-for-glory-2-review-a-tale-of-two-quest-for-glories\/","title":{"rendered":"Quest For Glory 2 Review:  A Tale Of Two Quest for Glories"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve never been big on RPG games. Part of the problem, I think, is that I got born into a world where RPG games meant <em>very<\/em> strict min-maxing. If I go back and think about my time with the gold box games, it boiled down to you having to roll scores over and over and over again until they were perfect. Basically: there\u2019s too much micromanagement in RPG\u2019s for me to bother with.<\/p>\n<p>So, when Sierra put out a RPG in the form of Hero\u2019s Quest I: So You Want To Be A Hero? I was a little puzzled, but curious.<\/p>\n<p>And you know what? It wasn\u2019t a bad experience. Sierra had gotten rid of at least <em>some<\/em> of the silly min-maxery that most RPG\u2019s of the day had. Your stats could only go up. And they went up through practise. More than that, the puzzles that existed in the game had multiple solutions [a thing that had seemingly fallen out of favour over at Sierra by this time.] \u2013 so, if you were a Magician, with Magicial spells, the solution to some of the problems would be very different from some other person playing a Warrior with Warrior skills.<\/p>\n<p>The first game was also wonderfully open-ended. You could do <em>most<\/em> of the major quests at your own pace \u2013 there was no real \u201cset order\u201d for any of it. [in fact, if you knew the correct path, you could skip right to the ending.]<\/p>\n<p>It was a \u2013 for the most part \u2013 a fun adventure\/RPG hybrid.<\/p>\n<p>So, of course, when Sierra announced the second game in the sequence, I was naturally interested. Not as interested as \u2013 say \u2013 if they\u2019d announced a new King\u2019s Quest or Space Quest, but I figured that if they expanded on the ideas already in the first game, we\u2019d be good to go.<\/p>\n<p>The thing is, when you\u2019re building a game like Quest For Glory, and you\u2019ve pushed your in-house engine in a very specific direction, you can only really keep going in that direction. Particularly when you\u2019ve gotten your user-base to save their hero for use in the next game.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_342\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-342\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/greywolfe.co.za\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/qfg2_cast_levitate.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-342\" src=\"http:\/\/greywolfe.co.za\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/qfg2_cast_levitate-150x150.png\" alt=\"In Quest For Glory 2, the way you make your stats better is by repeatedly typing the same phrase over and over again.  Here's one of the very few crashes I had with the game where I had &quot;cast levitate&quot; at about the point where the sun went down.  My hero didn't ever touch the ground again.\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-342\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cast levitate! That&#8217;s the five hundredth cast! I should be good now! Wait. Why don&#8217;t I come down?!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>So this means that the same systems that existed in Hero\u2019s Quest I all make a return in the second game. Janky combat? It\u2019s back. Having to raise your climb skill by \u201cclimbing wall\u201d over and over and over again is back. And most problematically, stamina is still a big deal. [less of a big deal than in the first game, but it can still kill you.]<\/p>\n<p>Probably the worst sin this game commits is what I lovingly refer to as the \u201cStreets of Rage\u201d problem. See, the designers wanted this to feel like the Arabian Nights. So you needed to be able to get lost in the streets of Shapeir. And the way to do that was to make EVERY STREET look exactly the same. You\u2019d need a map to navigate the city. [provided in the documentation, thankfully]<\/p>\n<p>This does lead to one of the more interesting subsystems: you can buy a<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_343\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-343\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/greywolfe.co.za\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/qfg2_street_map.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-343\" src=\"http:\/\/greywolfe.co.za\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/qfg2_street_map-150x150.png\" alt=\"In Quest for Glory 2, you have to navigate the streets of Shapeir.  They're all corridors that look the same.  So, it's best to get the map early and to fill it in, so you can instantly zoom from one place to another within the confines of the city.\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-343\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The magic map. A \/necessity\/ for beating the game.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>map from a merchant [as long as you do so almost as soon as the game starts \u2013 that merchant goes away after a while] and the map will allow you to instantly teleport between any two points in the city. But until you have that map&#8230;the game is a chore.<\/p>\n<p>Worse still, this game railroads you. There are things you <em>have<\/em> to get done, the designers have decided, and you <em>have<\/em> to do them in that specific order. There\u2019s no way to sequence break out of any of it. It\u2019s all pretty linear and follows a very set story-line.<\/p>\n<p>For what it is, the story-line isn\u2019t terrible: the Katta \u2013 your cat-like friends from the last game \u2013 live in a place called Shapeir \u2013 a town wedged in the middle of a desert. Shapeir has a sister-city named Raseir which is on the other end of the same desert.<\/p>\n<p>Shapeir is still reasonably OK, except for the threat of imminent danger in the form of elementals that are wreaking havoc on the city. As all elemental systems go, the &#8220;usual four&#8221; are here: you will have to contend with water, fire, air and earth.<\/p>\n<p>Raseir, on the other hand, is in dire straits. A pair of autocrats have taken over the city and have declared a kind of martial law where doing almost anything \u201cwrong\u201d gets you tossed into the dungeons with no hope of escape.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a third strand at work here \u2013 which you only really find out about half way through the game, so I won\u2019t spoil it, but it\u2019s this third strand that turns out to be particularly troublesome for the design of the game.<\/p>\n<p>Part of the problem with the third strand is that it is time-sensitive. You <em>have<\/em> to do things before a certain allotment of days has passed or you will have trouble finishing the game.<\/p>\n<p>What this really means is that you only have a certain amount of time to grind character stats so that you can take on the final encounter in the second half of the game. [the second half of the game doesn\u2019t really give you much opportunity to better your character much]<\/p>\n<p>And this leads to the game\u2019s biggest design fault: false pressure created by the story to get things done. I\u2019ve mentioned before that <a href=\"http:\/\/greywolfe.co.za\/blog\/rise-of-the-dragon-review-t-i-i-mes-not-on-my-side\/\" target=\"_blank\">I hate timers<\/a>. I hate how they warp the games around them into panicky speed runs through interesting content so that you don\u2019t get killed by the ever-present and ever-ominous tick-tocking going on in the background.<\/p>\n<p>There are a couple of saving graces this time around: the story is far more fleshed out \u2013 you\u2019re not just going from article to article on a list trying to deal with those issues, instead, the entire story is woven around the problems the sister cities face. This means that there\u2019s enough scope for mild cinematic flourishes. People don\u2019t just tell you things anymore, they go a little further, showing you what they\u2019re talking about.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_341\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-341\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/greywolfe.co.za\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/qfg2_beating_the_bandits.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-341\" src=\"http:\/\/greywolfe.co.za\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/qfg2_beating_the_bandits-150x150.png\" alt=\"There comes a point in the story where you end up being beset by a huge swathe of bad things.  This is the only rational outcome:  the hero beats them all back and does a victory pose.\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-341\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Best! Cut Scene! Ever! Modern gaming would never do this ;)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The soundtrack, also, is fantastically Arabian \u2013 a surprising feat given the technology of the time \u2013 and this particular backdrop truly sells the game \u2013 your immersion \u2013 your connection to the pixels you&#8217;re seeing is that much stronger for the songs and tones that Sierra have used, here.<\/p>\n<p>Lastly, there\u2019s the path of honour. We meet a fantastic beast that is half-centaur, half-lion in the form of Rakeesh. Rakeesh points any character [so long as they\u2019re honourable, anyway \u2013 it\u2019s possible to do this as a thief, but very difficult] along the way of the Paladin. And this is truly one of the finest implementations of that ideal, because you absolutely have to work for it. There is no instant gratification of simply \u201cchoosing to be a paladin\u201d and for this I utterly have to applaud the Coles. Rakeesh and his Way of Honour are one of the best things about this game.<\/p>\n<p>Should you play this game? If you liked the first and you want to see where the series goes, you can sorta skip this particular chapter for the third one, because the stat build-up isn\u2019t too crazy between that game and this one and your saved game from the first game will readily import into the third with no problem. This game has flaws and some of the flaws are utterly game breaking.<\/p>\n<p>HOWEVER. The Way of the Paladin, the Julanar side-story and the absolutely amazing WIT [Wizards Institute of Technocery] exam are all wonderful bits of content that are absolutely worth experiencing.<\/p>\n<p>I did a Let&#8217;s Play of Quest for Glory 2 and you can watch it <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLMhI8uDx_hILCinZhH760H22l9uLCqGjL\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve never been big on RPG games. 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